[Koha] Check out restriction to category / branch for School Libraries

[anjoze]

Hi again.
I have the fallowing scenario:

1 Koha instance
1 Public Library
20 Public Schools

I want to restrict holds between the Public Library and School Libraries
but I don't want to restrict holds between School Libraries.

With independentbraches doesn't work because it will restrict everything.
I've tried to limit Patron categories to respectively libraries but didn't
worked.
Any help appreciated




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[Barton Chittenden]

I think you could use the transfer cost matrix for this -- set the transfer
costs among the school libraries to 0, and between the public and school
libraries to infinity.

Post by anjoze
Hi again.
1 Koha instance
1 Public Library
20 Public Schools
I want to restrict holds between the Public Library and School Libraries
but I don't want to restrict holds between School Libraries.

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[anjoze]

Thank you for your suggestion.
Didn't worked.
I've changed to 999 between the public and school
and 0 between school libraries.
Nothing happens.
On manual
(https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/administration.html#transport-cost-matrix)
just says: " The transport cost matrix lets a library system define relative
costs to transport books to one another "
Maybe this is just to statistics...




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[Caroline Cyr-La-Rose]

Did you enable the UseTransportCostMatrix system preference?

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Post by anjoze
Thank you for your suggestion.
Didn't worked.
I've changed to 999 between the public and school
and 0 between school libraries.
Nothing happens.
On manual
(https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/administration.html#transport-cost-matrix)
just says: " The transport cost matrix lets a library system define relative
costs to transport books to one another "
Maybe this is just to statistics...
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[anjoze]

Yes, its on.
What should I expect with transport cost matrix enabled?
Is it for restrictions?
On manual it's not explicit the use of cost matrix.
Thanks



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[Barton Chittenden]

The transport cost matrix is used to determine which libraries will fill
holds at other libraries. I think it may require that the holds queue cron
job be running periodically.

Post by anjoze
Yes, its on.
What should I expect with transport cost matrix enabled?
Is it for restrictions?
On manual it's not explicit the use of cost matrix.
Thanks
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[anjoze]

Yes Cron is running:
# Hourly holds queue updated
52 * * * * __KOHA_USER__ $KOHA_CRON_PATH/holds/build_holds_queue.pl

/dev/null 2>&1

Nothing happens :(
I've enabled Cost Matrix
Set 999 from Public Library to Schools and Schools to Public Library
Set 0 from School to School
On Patron Category I've limited the School Staff to the School Libraries
On Library Transfer Limits, disabled transfers, by Item Type, from Public to
Schools

None of those steps work!
The last one (Library Transfer Limits) just disable transfers but allow a
School to borrow a book from Public Library to a Student of that school.
It should exist a table like Library Transfer Limits but for Holds



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[Katrin Fischer]

I think if you set 999 you will still get transports, they are only very
expensive, but not impossible. You should check 'disable' if you don't
want to allow transports and it should give the cell a red background.

Maybe it would be simpler to use the UseBranchTransferLimits preference
instead?|
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|I am not completely sure if what you want to do is possible, as we only
had the case of not allowing holds in our libraries between all branches
so far. Long term I think it would be nice if the new library groups
feature could be used for this.
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Post by anjoze
# Hourly holds queue updated
52 * * * * __KOHA_USER__ $KOHA_CRON_PATH/holds/build_holds_queue.pl

/dev/null 2>&1

Nothing happens :(
I've enabled Cost Matrix
Set 999 from Public Library to Schools and Schools to Public Library
Set 0 from School to School
On Patron Category I've limited the School Staff to the School Libraries
On Library Transfer Limits, disabled transfers, by Item Type, from Public to
Schools
None of those steps work!
The last one (Library Transfer Limits) just disable transfers but allow a
School to borrow a book from Public Library to a Student of that school.
It should exist a table like Library Transfer Limits but for Holds
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[anjoze]

If I disable (red background) it does nothing.
With red bar on both (From/to - to/from) I'm able to make holds and I can
make transfers! This is strange...

UseBranchTransferLimits - I can't use this because our Public Library is the
one o prepare the records/items to the schools. Than they transfer them to
each school.
We need to be able to transfer items but not allow schools to put on hold
items from Public library.

I've tested IndependentBranches and IndependentBranchesPatronModifications
too.
If they worked like it says on description it would solve our problem but it
doesn't work.
IndependentBranches is Ok and don't allow schools to borrow from other
libraries.
IndependentBranchesPatronModifications should Prevent staff (but not
superlibrarians) from viewing and approving/denying patron modification
requests for patrons belonging to other libraries but it doesn't work as
expected.
If I set NO I can modify patrons but just with Tools- edit_patrons Perform
batch modification of patrons

Like you said it would be nice if that could be improved.
Something like Library transfer limits but Library Holds limits
Should I file a new request in bugzilla?




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[Paul Hoffman]

Post by anjoze
# Hourly holds queue updated
52 * * * * __KOHA_USER__ $KOHA_CRON_PATH/holds/build_holds_queue.pl >/dev/null 2>&1
Nothing happens :(

You might try changing the cron job command so that it doesn't throw
away all output:

52 * * * * __KOHA_USER__ $KOHA_CRON_PATH/holds/build_holds_queue.pl >> /tmp/build_holds_queue.log 2>&1

Then look at /tmp/build_holds_queue.log -- maybe something there will
explain what's going wrong.

(I hate cron jobs that blithely discard all output!)

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