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[Koha] ISBN display
Rubén Fernández Asensio
2018-09-03 05:23:37 UTC
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Hello all,
I understand that by MARC specifications the ISBN hyphens "may be system
generated as display constants" and are not supposed to be carried in
the MARC record:
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html

However all OPAC views show them without hyphens and I haven't found any
system preference to switch them on. On the contrary, I found references
to a patch to suppress them, at least in MARC view:
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2592

What's the appropriate way to switch on hyphen display in Normal and
ISBD views, if possible at all? I'm using Koha 18.05.

Ruben
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Katrin Fischer
2018-09-03 05:55:52 UTC
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Hi Rubén,

at the moment Koha can't generate an ISBN with hyphens for display.

Katrin
Post by Rubén Fernández Asensio
Hello all,
I understand that by MARC specifications the ISBN hyphens "may be
system generated as display constants" and are not supposed to be
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html
However all OPAC views show them without hyphens and I haven't found
any system preference to switch them on. On the contrary, I found
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2592
What's the appropriate way to switch on hyphen display in Normal and
ISBD views, if possible at all? I'm using Koha 18.05.
Ruben
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Indranil Das Gupta
2018-09-03 14:31:44 UTC
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Apropos to what Katrin said. To generate correct hypenation for ISBN, Koha
would need to know / be able to access the entire global list of ISBN
allotted, which is fairly an impossible task at the moment.

Indranil
Post by Katrin Fischer
Hi Rubén,
at the moment Koha can't generate an ISBN with hyphens for display.
Katrin
Post by Rubén Fernández Asensio
Hello all,
I understand that by MARC specifications the ISBN hyphens "may be
system generated as display constants" and are not supposed to be
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html
However all OPAC views show them without hyphens and I haven't found
any system preference to switch them on. On the contrary, I found
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2592
What's the appropriate way to switch on hyphen display in Normal and
ISBD views, if possible at all? I'm using Koha 18.05.
Ruben
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Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel
2018-09-04 00:31:57 UTC
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We do not have RDA toolkit, but according to OCLC
<https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/020.html>, hyphens are disregarded.
Personally, I prefer not to include hyphens. Based on experience, patrons
who searches for ISBN do not use hyphens.
Is it searchable if the patron search without hyphens and the ISBNs encoded
have hyphens?
Post by Indranil Das Gupta
Apropos to what Katrin said. To generate correct hypenation for ISBN, Koha
would need to know / be able to access the entire global list of ISBN
allotted, which is fairly an impossible task at the moment.
Indranil
Post by Katrin Fischer
Hi Rubén,
at the moment Koha can't generate an ISBN with hyphens for display.
Katrin
Post by Rubén Fernández Asensio
Hello all,
I understand that by MARC specifications the ISBN hyphens "may be
system generated as display constants" and are not supposed to be
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html
However all OPAC views show them without hyphens and I haven't found
any system preference to switch them on. On the contrary, I found
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2592
What's the appropriate way to switch on hyphen display in Normal and
ISBD views, if possible at all? I'm using Koha 18.05.
Ruben
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Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel
2018-09-03 06:02:14 UTC
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Hi.

Do you really need to show ISBN with hyphens? I haven't seen any OPAC
showing hyphens.
Post by Rubén Fernández Asensio
Hello all,
I understand that by MARC specifications the ISBN hyphens "may be system
generated as display constants" and are not supposed to be carried in
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html
However all OPAC views show them without hyphens and I haven't found any
system preference to switch them on. On the contrary, I found references
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2592
What's the appropriate way to switch on hyphen display in Normal and
ISBD views, if possible at all? I'm using Koha 18.05.
Ruben
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Rubén Fernández Asensio
2018-09-03 06:23:59 UTC
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Interesting. So nobody misses hyphens anymore.
Not even cataloguers? I thought AACR2 Rule 1.8B1 prescribed them. I
don't know what RDA says about them though.
Post by Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel
Hi.
Do you really need to show ISBN with hyphens? I haven't seen any OPAC
showing hyphens.
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:24 PM Rubén Fernández Asensio
Hello all,
I understand that by MARC specifications the ISBN hyphens "may be system
generated as display constants" and are not supposed to be carried in
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html
However all OPAC views show them without hyphens and I haven't found any
system preference to switch them on. On the contrary, I found references
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2592
What's the appropriate way to switch on hyphen display in Normal and
ISBD views, if possible at all? I'm using Koha 18.05.
Ruben
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Joy Nelson
2018-09-03 14:12:42 UTC
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No hyphens in RDA

RDA 2.15.1.4
The ISBN is a 10- or 13-digit number recorded in the MARC 020 field, ‡a, with both indicators blank. Do not include hyphens or the “ISBN” preceding the number. Qualifying information is recorded in ‡q ((e.g. (set) or (disc#).

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Post by Rubén Fernández Asensio
Interesting. So nobody misses hyphens anymore.
Not even cataloguers? I thought AACR2 Rule 1.8B1 prescribed them. I don't know what RDA says about them though.
Hi.
Do you really need to show ISBN with hyphens? I haven't seen any OPAC showing hyphens.
Hello all,
I understand that by MARC specifications the ISBN hyphens "may be system
generated as display constants" and are not supposed to be carried in
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html
However all OPAC views show them without hyphens and I haven't found any
system preference to switch them on. On the contrary, I found references
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2592
What's the appropriate way to switch on hyphen display in Normal and
ISBD views, if possible at all? I'm using Koha 18.05.
Ruben
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