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[Koha] Testing Koha - How to migrate data from Voyager 9 to Koha for testing?
Eliseo Gatchalian
2018-08-27 01:29:16 UTC
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Hi All,

Greetings! ☺ I’ve successfully installed Koha in a test virtual box and hoping to explore more of what it can do and check/match/improve our current workflows.

I’d like to test Koha with our actual data we have from Voyager 9.0, and wondering if anyone can point me on a direction of how to migrate our data?

I’ve done a search and found, https://github.com/jcamins/koha-migration-toolbox but I am not sure if this would work on the latest Koha version as it seems that last commits was at least 4 years ago.

Also, if we are to use the koha-migration-toolbox, from its scripts, it will extract CSV’s of all data, but I can’t seem to find in Koha on how to import those CSV’s? Any step-by-step guide for migrating data would be very helpful?


Many thanks in advance guys… ☺


Best regards,
Ellis

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Ere Maijala
2018-08-27 07:29:47 UTC
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Hi,

I'm not sure how well the migration toolbox works out of the box, but
there's one thing worth noting anyway: The vanilla Koha doesn't support
MFHD's, which have a pretty important role in Voyager. While in many
cases the relevant information can be stored in the bibliographic or
item records, we found it necessary to implement support for holdings
records in Koha. It, and the previous attempts, haven't really gained
traction, but I'm still trying. :) In any case we're currently in the
process of converting some Voyager databases to Koha with this custom
holdings support.

There's a Holdings RFC at
<https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MARC_Holdings_Records_RFC> and
patches at
<http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20447>. I'll
try to see if there any chance at discussing this at the KohaCon 2018
hackfest, but I'd also appreciate any input you as another Voyager
library might have.

Regards,
Ere
Post by Eliseo Gatchalian
Hi All,
Greetings! ☺ I’ve successfully installed Koha in a test virtual box and hoping to explore more of what it can do and check/match/improve our current workflows.
I’d like to test Koha with our actual data we have from Voyager 9.0, and wondering if anyone can point me on a direction of how to migrate our data?
I’ve done a search and found, https://github.com/jcamins/koha-migration-toolbox but I am not sure if this would work on the latest Koha version as it seems that last commits was at least 4 years ago.
Also, if we are to use the koha-migration-toolbox, from its scripts, it will extract CSV’s of all data, but I can’t seem to find in Koha on how to import those CSV’s? Any step-by-step guide for migrating data would be very helpful?
Many thanks in advance guys… ☺
Best regards,
Ellis
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Joy Nelson
2018-08-27 14:53:57 UTC
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Ere is correct. In Voyager migrations you need to think about the holding
records and how to handle them. We typically convert the holdings into
item tags on the associated bib record or load the information into a
textual holding statement(s) if possible.

-Joy
Post by Ere Maijala
Hi,
I'm not sure how well the migration toolbox works out of the box, but
there's one thing worth noting anyway: The vanilla Koha doesn't support
MFHD's, which have a pretty important role in Voyager. While in many cases
the relevant information can be stored in the bibliographic or item
records, we found it necessary to implement support for holdings records in
Koha. It, and the previous attempts, haven't really gained traction, but
I'm still trying. :) In any case we're currently in the process of
converting some Voyager databases to Koha with this custom holdings support.
There's a Holdings RFC at <https://wiki.koha-community.o
rg/wiki/MARC_Holdings_Records_RFC> and patches at <
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20447>. I'll try
to see if there any chance at discussing this at the KohaCon 2018 hackfest,
but I'd also appreciate any input you as another Voyager library might have.
Regards,
Ere
Post by Eliseo Gatchalian
Hi All,
Greetings! ☺ I’ve successfully installed Koha in a test virtual box and
hoping to explore more of what it can do and check/match/improve our
current workflows.
I’d like to test Koha with our actual data we have from Voyager 9.0, and
wondering if anyone can point me on a direction of how to migrate our data?
I’ve done a search and found, https://github.com/jcamins/koh
a-migration-toolbox but I am not sure if this would work on the latest
Koha version as it seems that last commits was at least 4 years ago.
Also, if we are to use the koha-migration-toolbox, from its scripts, it
will extract CSV’s of all data, but I can’t seem to find in Koha on how to
import those CSV’s? Any step-by-step guide for migrating data would be very
helpful?
Many thanks in advance guys… ☺
Best regards,
Ellis
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Ere Maijala
2018-08-28 05:46:36 UTC
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Hi Ellis,

If you mean exporting bibs and holdings from Voyager and importing them
to Koha, you can do that but the current Koha versions will treat all
the records as bibliographic, which isn't very useful, and it would also
lose all the links between bibs and holdings.

You could use Michael's utility to move the relevant holdings fields to
the bib records. This would work fine unless you have more verbose MFHDs
as there's no way to say in the bib record that fields coming from a
single MFHD belong together. E.g. if you have multiple holdings with 852
and 856 fields, there's no way to indicate which ones go together.
That's why I implemented the not-yet-accepted support for proper holding
records in Koha.

Regards,
Ere
Hi Ere,
Many thanks for the useful info. As an alternative, if I do a full Marc export using https://rocky.uta.edu/doran/voyager/export/ or using the Voyager's Pmarcexport utility, and import it to Koha to stage it for mapping, do you think that would work?
Best regards,
Ellis
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Hi,
I'm not sure how well the migration toolbox works out of the box, but there's one thing worth noting anyway: The vanilla Koha doesn't support MFHD's, which have a pretty important role in Voyager. While in many cases the relevant information can be stored in the bibliographic or item records, we found it necessary to implement support for holdings records in Koha. It, and the previous attempts, haven't really gained traction, but I'm still trying. :) In any case we're currently in the process of converting some Voyager databases to Koha with this custom holdings support.
There's a Holdings RFC at
<https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.koha-community.org%2Fwiki%2FMARC_Holdings_Records_RFC&amp;data=02%7C01%7Celiseo.gatchalian%40wintec.ac.nz%7C0659bf4972a64a9bce7908d60bef0f7f%7C4dfb6010c24b4460a31d9fab1f5b12c2%7C0%7C0%7C636709518756644591&amp;sdata=eYoP%2FaFSEF7JUG7CV5eZEe7e6X5Lq15CPYs4UZjZe5Y%3D&amp;reserved=0> and patches at <https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbugs.koha-community.org%2Fbugzilla3%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D20447&amp;data=02%7C01%7Celiseo.gatchalian%40wintec.ac.nz%7C0659bf4972a64a9bce7908d60bef0f7f%7C4dfb6010c24b4460a31d9fab1f5b12c2%7C0%7C0%7C636709518756644591&amp;sdata=qt%2Fz8%2BIXt0AkWKmHjG5%2BByZg46bOVfHYnN5Fihc3Ft4%3D&amp;reserved=0>. I'll try to see if there any chance at discussing this at the KohaCon 2018 hackfest, but I'd also appreciate any input you as another Voyager library might have.
Regards,
Ere
Post by Eliseo Gatchalian
Hi All,
Greetings! ☺ I’ve successfully installed Koha in a test virtual box and hoping to explore more of what it can do and check/match/improve our current workflows.
I’d like to test Koha with our actual data we have from Voyager 9.0, and wondering if anyone can point me on a direction of how to migrate our data?
I’ve done a search and found, https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fjcamins%2Fkoha-migration-toolbox&amp;data=02%7C01%7Celiseo.gatchalian%40wintec.ac.nz%7C0659bf4972a64a9bce7908d60bef0f7f%7C4dfb6010c24b4460a31d9fab1f5b12c2%7C0%7C0%7C636709518756644591&amp;sdata=9g0s0GvSbIpfWvc61Lv%2BisF1ukCmBp7moTs4pJm9YSY%3D&amp;reserved=0 but I am not sure if this would work on the latest Koha version as it seems that last commits was at least 4 years ago.
Also, if we are to use the koha-migration-toolbox, from its scripts, it will extract CSV’s of all data, but I can’t seem to find in Koha on how to import those CSV’s? Any step-by-step guide for migrating data would be very helpful?
Many thanks in advance guys… ☺
Best regards,
Ellis
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