[Koha] Field 003 of Marc21

[Hira Akram]

Hi All,
Can you please tell me what is filled in field 003 of MARC21 format?

I have searched this on internet and this is what I found : MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001.

I am unable to understand this. Can anyone help.

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[Selma Aslan]

Hi Hira,

Have you checked http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/

If there is not an agency in your country you can mailto:***@loc.gov and ask for a code.(http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/#requests)

Best

Selma
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Date: Monday, 6 August, 2018, 14:22

Hi All,
Can you please tell me what is filled
in field 003 of MARC21 format?

I have searched this on internet and
this is what I found : MARC code for the organization whose
control number is contained in field 001.

I am unable to understand this. Can
anyone help.

Thanks

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[Hira Akram]

Hi Selma,

Thank you. Can you please also explain me about these codes?

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Hi Hira,

Have you checked http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/

If there is not an agency in your country you can mailto:***@loc.gov and ask for a code.(http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/#requests)

Best

Selma
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Date: Monday, 6 August, 2018, 14:22

Hi All,
Can you please tell me what is filled
in field 003 of MARC21 format?

I have searched this on internet and
this is what I found : MARC code for the organization whose
control number is contained in field 001.

I am unable to understand this. Can
anyone help.

Thanks

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[King, Fred]

They're letters that identify a library. Library of Congress is DLC, National Library of Medicine is DNLM, my library is DWHC. MARC tag 003 is used to identify which library assigned the contents of the 001 tag. They're also used in the 040 field to identify who did the original cataloging, who modified it, and a few other things.

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Hi Selma,

Thank you. Can you please also explain me about these codes?

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Hi Hira,

Have you checked https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.loc.gov_marc_organizations_&d=DwIGaQ&c=RvBXVp2Kc-itN3g6r3sN0QK_zL4whPpndVxj8-bJ04M&r=vKh6XwOmjyC51IkP1OfsdjQZoWT2vpi6VZl8El8EPRI&m=fZpbO4gxxQac3eeLiRkkkkT7KpKjRwnqFoNyh485eIw&s=htPAoq8NYm0_WRGCSXBxuDF8cq5gvQoyadyf2y1jR0M&e=

If there is not an agency in your country you can mailto:***@loc.gov and ask for a code.(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.loc.gov_marc_organizations_-23requests&d=DwIGaQ&c=RvBXVp2Kc-itN3g6r3sN0QK_zL4whPpndVxj8-bJ04M&r=vKh6XwOmjyC51IkP1OfsdjQZoWT2vpi6VZl8El8EPRI&m=fZpbO4gxxQac3eeLiRkkkkT7KpKjRwnqFoNyh485eIw&s=t4gViR9FEXm8AfBibSo9fZ6ujXJ_shqO4S0Ozww_SZ0&e=)

Best

Selma
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Subject: [Koha] Field 003 of Marc21
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Date: Monday, 6 August, 2018, 14:22

Hi All,
Can you please tell me what is filled
in field 003 of MARC21 format?

I have searched this on internet and
this is what I found : MARC code for the organization whose
control number is contained in field 001.

I am unable to understand this. Can
anyone help.

Thanks

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[Ingrid Schiessl]

Hi Hira!

MARC code!

Your library could have a MARC code. You can request a MARC code in <
http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/>

In Koha, if you set systems preferences *MARCOrgCode* with your code or
any other code, field 003 it's filled automatically.

Post by Hira Akram
Hi All,
Can you please tell me what is filled in field 003 of MARC21 format?
I have searched this on internet and this is what I found : MARC code for
the organization whose control number is contained in field 001.
I am unable to understand this. Can anyone help.
Thanks
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[Selma Aslan]

It is an institutional identifier for bibliographic environment and indicates that the bibliographic record belongs to your library. I think it is an optional field,because a nmber of libraries do not use this field. - Selma
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Marc21  Hi Hira,  Have you checked
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2018, 14:22  Hi All, Can you please tell me what
is filled in field 003
of MARC21 format?
 I have searched this
on internet and this
is what I found : MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained
in field 001.   I am unable to understand
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[King, Fred]

Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this, but if you're in a small library, a lot of this doesn't matter as much as one might think. The library where I work has maybe 5000 books--I have more books at home.* If your library users can find the books on the shelves, it doesn't matter that the 060b field (NLM classification system, Cutter number) isn't perfect, or the 082 (Dewey) number doesn't go to all thirty five decimals.

My general rule of thumb: if you're part of the cataloging department, you need to be fairly careful. If you ARE the cataloging department (and the systems department, and half the reference department, and...), you can let a few things slide.

*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha.

Fred King
Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center
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202-877-6670
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MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org

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[Paul A]

Post by King, Fred
Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this

IT technicians (and lawyers) might also turn pale. The combination of
001 and 003 should be unique, and show the origin (certainly as a
courtesy, if not as the responsibility and the possible copyright of a
z39-50 download) of what you are using in your library db. "Your
library" might be big, small, at home, whatever; but if you make your
records available to the public, surely some level of accountability is
desirable.

MARC21 (and other flavours used by Koha) have been developed over many
years from tradition, some common sense, some technicalities, probably
many more considerations by tens of thousands of quite smart librarians,
archivists and end-users. Koha makes this available at a fairly painless
level.

Post by King, Fred
*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha.

Then please use Koha as a recognizable library catalogue rather than a
glorified spreadsheet. But YMMV.

Best -- Paul
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[King, Fred]

I should clarify: I wouldn't strip out the 001 or 003 from a record--I was referring mostly to call numbers, possibly physical description, maybe subject headings--things you need to add to a record. I do very little original cataloging; most of my records I download from OCLC. A lot of the NLM call numbers are either incomplete or missing entirely. For those, I go to the NLM classification site (https://www.nlm.nih.gov/class//) and try to come as close as I can. For the Cutter number, I look in my Cutter-Sanborn Three-Figure Author book or to http://www.unforbi.com.ar/cutteren/. For the handful of books for which I create an entire record, well, I do the best I can.

I used to worry about getting it exactly right, but now I figure that if it's off a bit, it doesn't matter.

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Post by King, Fred
*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha.

Then please use Koha as a recognizable library catalogue rather than a
glorified spreadsheet. But YMMV.

But of course. That's why I haven't done it yet--I want to get it right. :-) And we're still unpacking from the move.

Fred King
Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center
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MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org

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Post by Paul A
Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this

IT technicians (and lawyers) might also turn pale. The combination of
001 and 003 should be unique, and show the origin (certainly as a
courtesy, if not as the responsibility and the possible copyright of a
z39-50 download) of what you are using in your library db. "Your
library" might be big, small, at home, whatever; but if you make your
records available to the public, surely some level of accountability is
desirable.

MARC21 (and other flavours used by Koha) have been developed over many
years from tradition, some common sense, some technicalities, probably
many more considerations by tens of thousands of quite smart librarians,
archivists and end-users. Koha makes this available at a fairly painless
level.

Post by Paul A
*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha.

Then please use Koha as a recognizable library catalogue rather than a
glorified spreadsheet. But YMMV.

Best -- Paul
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Post by King, Fred
Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this,
but if you're in a small library, a lot of this doesn't matter as much as one might think.

Agreed. Clone the default bibliographic framework and customize it to
fit your needs.

-- Owen

[Hira Akram]

Hi,
Where are you saving your author cutter? Because I am trying to save author cutter and print it on spine label. But I am not sure where to save it. I found on internet that Cutter-Sanborn Three-Figure Author Table may conform to Library of Congress item number practice so I am saving it in 050$b. but I am unable to print it in spine label. Which name should I use in spine label preferences to print it there?? Also, I want to print year in spine label which is saved in 260$c and I am using <year> in spine label system preference but it is not getting printed there.
What should I do to print them??

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Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this, but if you're in a small library, a lot of this doesn't matter as much as one might think. The library where I work has maybe 5000 books--I have more books at home.* If your library users can find the books on the shelves, it doesn't matter that the 060b field (NLM classification system, Cutter number) isn't perfect, or the 082 (Dewey) number doesn't go to all thirty five decimals.

My general rule of thumb: if you're part of the cataloging department, you need to be fairly careful. If you ARE the cataloging department (and the systems department, and half the reference department, and...), you can let a few things slide.

*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha.

Fred King
Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center
***@medstar.net
202-877-6670
ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279
MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org

I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
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[Ingrid Schiessl]

Hi Hira!

You can choose the field you want to print in : More > Tools > Catalog >
Label Creator.
You have to create a new Layout and edit the 'List Fields', you can
specify MARC subfields as a 4-character tag-subfield string: (ie. 254a for
the title field). You can also enclose a whitespace-separated list of
fields to concatenate on one line in double quotes. (ie. "099a 099b" or
"itemcallnumber barcode").

Post by Hira Akram
Hi,
Where are you saving your author cutter? Because I am trying to save
author cutter and print it on spine label. But I am not sure where to save
it. I found on internet that Cutter-Sanborn Three-Figure Author Table may
conform to Library of Congress item number practice so I am saving it in
050$b. but I am unable to print it in spine label. Which name should I use
in spine label preferences to print it there?? Also, I want to print year
in spine label which is saved in 260$c and I am using <year> in spine label
system preference but it is not getting printed there.
What should I do to print them??
From: King, Fred
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 6:26 PM
To: Hira Akram
Subject: RE: [Koha] Field 003 of Marc21
Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read
this, but if you're in a small library, a lot of this doesn't matter as
much as one might think. The library where I work has maybe 5000 books--I
have more books at home.* If your library users can find the books on the
shelves, it doesn't matter that the 060b field (NLM classification system,
Cutter number) isn't perfect, or the 082 (Dewey) number doesn't go to all
thirty five decimals.
My general rule of thumb: if you're part of the cataloging department, you
need to be fairly careful. If you ARE the cataloging department (and the
systems department, and half the reference department, and...), you can let
a few things slide.
*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha.
Fred King
Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center
202-877-6670
ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279
MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org
I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when
there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
--Terry Pratchett
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[Paul Hoffman]

Just for future reference, the Library of Congress maintains the
documentation of the MARC21 standard; for bib record documentation,
start here:

http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/

It's not always easy reading, but as a systems librarian (and not a
cataloger!) I find it indispensable.

Paul.

Post by Hira Akram
Hi All,
Can you please tell me what is filled in field 003 of MARC21 format?
I have searched this on internet and this is what I found : MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001.
I am unable to understand this. Can anyone help.
Thanks
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