[Koha] Drawing Software - Floor Mapping Library's Collections

[jeff haskell]

Hi,

I'm new to the list and grateful to be here.

I'm interested in drawing software so patrons and new staff,
volunteers and student interns can find materials on shelves easily
and quickly.

Ex. one set of shelves to the far left of the circulation desk would
be labeled Fiction. Then the next set of shelves named Mystery in the
shelves bay to the right of the Fiction shelves bay and then to the
right of that the shelves Bay for Supernatural.

This would be a floor plan so a patron could walk around the library
and look at this floor plan map and know where Fiction is - where
Mystery is, Biography, etc. for every collection throughout the
library.

If I sat with an illustrator they could probably draw it all up in
about 20-30 minutes and I would just scan what they drew and have a
map (crude compared to a 3D) but enough so a patron could find items.

But, is there any *free* easy to learn / easy to use software which
could accomplish that?

Thank you!

J.
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[Barton Chittenden]

There are a couple of good open source drawing packages that should be
available on Windows, Mac or Linux:

OpenOffice has a package called 'draw' that works quite well

For vector graphics, I would look at inkscape: https://inkscape.org/en/

Post by jeff haskell
Hi,
I'm new to the list and grateful to be here.
I'm interested in drawing software so patrons and new staff,
volunteers and student interns can find materials on shelves easily
and quickly.
Ex. one set of shelves to the far left of the circulation desk would
be labeled Fiction. Then the next set of shelves named Mystery in the
shelves bay to the right of the Fiction shelves bay and then to the
right of that the shelves Bay for Supernatural.
This would be a floor plan so a patron could walk around the library
and look at this floor plan map and know where Fiction is - where
Mystery is, Biography, etc. for every collection throughout the
library.
If I sat with an illustrator they could probably draw it all up in
about 20-30 minutes and I would just scan what they drew and have a
map (crude compared to a 3D) but enough so a patron could find items.
But, is there any *free* easy to learn / easy to use software which
could accomplish that?
Thank you!
J.
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[Cab Vinton]

Wonder how hard it would be implement something like this in Koha:

http://tallons.law.utexas.edu/record=b2070846

(see dark blue Map It! button on the right, next to Status)

This is provided through a commercial product, but the basic
technology doesn't seem all that complicated (from a layman's point of
view!)

Trickiest part is perhaps making sure the cn_sort values in the item
records are correct?

A couple related bugs:
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10814

Cheers,

Cab Vinton, Director
Plaistow Public Library
Plaistow, NH
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[Barton Chittenden]

Cab,

Apparently not impossible:

https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581

I don't know any details of the implementation, though.

--Barton

Post by Cab Vinton
http://tallons.law.utexas.edu/record=b2070846
(see dark blue Map It! button on the right, next to Status)
This is provided through a commercial product, but the basic
technology doesn't seem all that complicated (from a layman's point of
view!)
Trickiest part is perhaps making sure the cn_sort values in the item
records are correct?
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10814
Cheers,
Cab Vinton, Director
Plaistow Public Library
Plaistow, NH
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[Barton Chittenden]

Nate says this was done using 'stackmap'.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Barton Chittenden <

Post by Barton Chittenden
Cab,
https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581
I don't know any details of the implementation, though.
--Barton

Post by Cab Vinton
http://tallons.law.utexas.edu/record=b2070846
(see dark blue Map It! button on the right, next to Status)
This is provided through a commercial product, but the basic
technology doesn't seem all that complicated (from a layman's point of
view!)
Trickiest part is perhaps making sure the cn_sort values in the item
records are correct?
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10814
Cheers,
Cab Vinton, Director
Plaistow Public Library
Plaistow, NH
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[Indranil Das Gupta]

Yep stackmap and proprietary as $CHOICEOFWORD.

This might be interesting if we are looking for OSS solutions
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping

Cheers
Indranil

Post by Barton Chittenden
Nate says this was done using 'stackmap'.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Barton Chittenden <

Post by Barton Chittenden
Cab,
https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581
I don't know any details of the implementation, though.
--Barton

Post by Cab Vinton
http://tallons.law.utexas.edu/record=b2070846
(see dark blue Map It! button on the right, next to Status)
This is provided through a commercial product, but the basic
technology doesn't seem all that complicated (from a layman's point of
view!)
Trickiest part is perhaps making sure the cn_sort values in the item
records are correct?
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10814
Cheers,
Cab Vinton, Director
Plaistow Public Library
Plaistow, NH
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[drojup]

This feature (https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581) where a
location map shows the item position would be great!



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[Martin Renvoize]

European Southern Observatory have been doing this for as long as I can
remember.

https://eso.koha-ptfs.eu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=121769&query_desc=callnum%2Cphr%3A%20A%2014-1

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Post by drojup
This feature (https://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/app/work/141581) where a
location map shows the item position would be great!
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[Barton Chittenden]

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 5:14 AM Martin Renvoize <

Post by Martin Renvoize
European Southern Observatory have been doing this for as long as I can
remember.
https://eso.koha-ptfs.eu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=121769&query_desc=callnum%2Cphr%3A%20A%2014-1

Martin,

Do you know if this is done with stackmap as well?
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[Martin Renvoize]

I believe it's a homegrown solution, but it's been a while since I've
interacted with them directly I'm afraid. I've always thought it looked
pretty cool and helpful to patrons though :)

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Post by Barton Chittenden
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 5:14 AM Martin Renvoize <

Post by Martin Renvoize
European Southern Observatory have been doing this for as long as I can
remember.
https://eso.koha-ptfs.eu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=121769&query_desc=callnum%2Cphr%3A%20A%2014-1

Martin,
Do you know if this is done with stackmap as well?

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[Magnus Enger]

Post by Indranil Das Gupta
This might be interesting if we are looking for OSS solutions
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping

There is also this library, which might prove useful:
https://leafletjs.com/
It can be used with custom images (e.g. a floorplan of a library).

I think a mapping function for Koha, where we could show the
(approximate) location of an item on a map, would be super useful. I
guess there are three ways to do it:

- Build it right into Koha
- Build it as a plugin for Koha
- Build a free standing web thingy that can work with Koha (through a
link from Koha to a map)

If anyone is interested in collaborating on this please let me know!

Best regards,
Magnus
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[Owen Leonard]

Post by Magnus Enger
I think a mapping function for Koha, where we could show the
(approximate) location of an item on a map, would be super useful.

I don't know anything about how an implementation would work, but I'd
like to put in my vote for a solution that uses SVG. There are perl
libraries for generating SVG, so it might be possible to overlay a
dynamically-generated marker onto a custom SVG library map.

-- Owen

[Indranil Das Gupta]

Owen:

Indeed! I was thinking of it last night that an SVG map generated in
Inkscape or something and then the pointer rendered or styled on top (or
not render the map for non-tagged / tagable items) using XSLT

The footprint of such a solution may be the lightest to render.

Just my 2p

Indranil

Post by Owen Leonard

Post by Magnus Enger
I think a mapping function for Koha, where we could show the
(approximate) location of an item on a map, would be super useful.

I don't know anything about how an implementation would work, but I'd
like to put in my vote for a solution that uses SVG. There are perl
libraries for generating SVG, so it might be possible to overlay a
dynamically-generated marker onto a custom SVG library map.
-- Owen
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[Barton Chittenden]

Yeah, that should be super-easy to do. If I'm not mistaken, SVG can be
manipulated via CSS, so it might be as easy as giving a class to each
section in the drawing that represents a shelving location. For a given
item, you'd read items.location, and then change the color for that class.

As long as we're talking about indoor mapping, here is a project to make
buildings accessible to the blind:
https://www.aph.org/nearby-explorer/indoor-explorer/ . It /is/ proprietary,
but I think it works with openstreetmap.

Post by Owen Leonard

Post by Magnus Enger
I think a mapping function for Koha, where we could show the
(approximate) location of an item on a map, would be super useful.

I don't know anything about how an implementation would work, but I'd
like to put in my vote for a solution that uses SVG. There are perl
libraries for generating SVG, so it might be possible to overlay a
dynamically-generated marker onto a custom SVG library map.
-- Owen
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[Roger Hiles]

Hi--

Try GIMP (https://www.gimp.org/)

It's not the simplest program in the world, but it's a great, all-purpose graphics program. Lots of online assistance, tutorials, etc. Plus, it's free.

Roger Hiles
Arcadia Public Library

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Subject: [Koha] Drawing Software - Floor Mapping Library's Collections

Hi,

I'm new to the list and grateful to be here.

I'm interested in drawing software so patrons and new staff, volunteers and student interns can find materials on shelves easily and quickly.

Ex. one set of shelves to the far left of the circulation desk would be labeled Fiction. Then the next set of shelves named Mystery in the shelves bay to the right of the Fiction shelves bay and then to the right of that the shelves Bay for Supernatural.

This would be a floor plan so a patron could walk around the library and look at this floor plan map and know where Fiction is - where Mystery is, Biography, etc. for every collection throughout the library.

If I sat with an illustrator they could probably draw it all up in about 20-30 minutes and I would just scan what they drew and have a map (crude compared to a 3D) but enough so a patron could find items.

But, is there any *free* easy to learn / easy to use software which could accomplish that?

Thank you!

J.
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