Discussion:
[Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses
Boettcher, Uwe
2018-08-24 10:52:54 UTC
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Dear all,

we have the same problem, just with professors and personal assistants, and would be happy to learn about a way to send notices to more than just one e-mail address derived from a patrons' account.

Many thanks in advance, and kind regards

Uwe
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(Mr.) Uwe Boettcher
WHU - Otto Beisheim School of Management
Vallendar, Germany

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Hi all,

we are using Koha in our school library and we have the following
"problem". We checkout books to all of our students starting from
preschool. Especially the younger once don't have a personal eMail
address. So we like to send notices (checkouts, checkins, overdues...)
to both parents. As far as I understand Koha it send the notices only to
one address. We could put in one of the parent's email, but we like to
inform both.

I've read that overdue_notices.pl has an repeatable --email parameter.
Where can I change it to send the notice to both parents?

Are there other ways to solve this problem or is it just not possible?

I'm thankful for any hints.

Regards,
Stephan
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Alvaro Cornejo
2018-08-24 13:24:01 UTC
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Hi,

Haven't tested on Koha but in other applications, the workaround I use is
to enter both email addresses on the same field separated by a semi-colon
(;) something like "***@domain.com; ***@domain2.com"

Koha might not allow the ; and space as valid characters on the email
address and the email process might also fail. You can also try with a
semicolon only (no space).

Regards,

Alvaro

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Post by Boettcher, Uwe
Dear all,
we have the same problem, just with professors and personal assistants,
and would be happy to learn about a way to send notices to more than just
one e-mail address derived from a patrons' account.
Many thanks in advance, and kind regards
Uwe
--
(Mr.) Uwe Boettcher
WHU - Otto Beisheim School of Management
Vallendar, Germany
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. August 2018 12:10
Betreff: [Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses
Hi all,
we are using Koha in our school library and we have the following
"problem". We checkout books to all of our students starting from
preschool. Especially the younger once don't have a personal eMail
address. So we like to send notices (checkouts, checkins, overdues...)
to both parents. As far as I understand Koha it send the notices only to
one address. We could put in one of the parent's email, but we like to
inform both.
I've read that overdue_notices.pl has an repeatable --email parameter.
Where can I change it to send the notice to both parents?
Are there other ways to solve this problem or is it just not possible?
I'm thankful for any hints.
Regards,
Stephan
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Boettcher, Uwe
2018-08-24 13:49:00 UTC
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Hi Alvaro,

thanks a lot for your feedback.

Indeed, we already have tried to enter more than just one email address into the address field. Unfortunately, as you already assumed, Koha comes up with an error message, claiming the email address not to be correct. We have tried several combinations of blank and semicolon, but none was accepted.

Best

Uwe

Von: Alvaro Cornejo [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. August 2018 15:24
An: Boettcher, Uwe <***@whu.edu>
Cc: zefanja <***@zefanjas.de>; ***@lists.katipo.co.nz
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Hi,

Haven't tested on Koha but in other applications, the workaround I use is to enter both email addresses on the same field separated by a semi-colon (;) something like "***@domain.com<mailto:***@domain.com>; ***@domain2.com<mailto:***@domain2.com>"

Koha might not allow the ; and space as valid characters on the email address and the email process might also fail. You can also try with a semicolon only (no space).

Regards,

Alvaro

|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Envíe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier celular y Nextel
en el Perú, México y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via SMS y GPRS online
Visitenos en www.perusms.com<http://www.perusms.com>

2018-08-24 5:52 GMT-05:00 Boettcher, Uwe <***@whu.edu<mailto:***@whu.edu>>:
Dear all,

we have the same problem, just with professors and personal assistants, and would be happy to learn about a way to send notices to more than just one e-mail address derived from a patrons' account.

Many thanks in advance, and kind regards

Uwe
--
(Mr.) Uwe Boettcher
WHU - Otto Beisheim School of Management
Vallendar, Germany

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Koha [mailto:koha-***@lists.katipo.co.nz<mailto:koha-***@lists.katipo.co.nz>] Im Auftrag von zefanja
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. August 2018 12:10
An: ***@lists.katipo.co.nz<mailto:***@lists.katipo.co.nz>
Betreff: [Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses

Hi all,

we are using Koha in our school library and we have the following
"problem". We checkout books to all of our students starting from
preschool. Especially the younger once don't have a personal eMail
address. So we like to send notices (checkouts, checkins, overdues...)
to both parents. As far as I understand Koha it send the notices only to
one address. We could put in one of the parent's email, but we like to
inform both.

I've read that overdue_notices.pl<http://overdue_notices.pl> has an repeatable --email parameter.
Where can I change it to send the notice to both parents?

Are there other ways to solve this problem or is it just not possible?

I'm thankful for any hints.

Regards,
Stephan
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Alvaro Cornejo
2018-08-24 14:04:54 UTC
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Hi

Do it the hardway?

Koha "borrowers" table define the email field as a long text. This means it
accept any character. Therefore you might enter the info directly to the DB
jumping over Koha... this can be done with a script to automate the
process...

Then would need to test if koha email processing does not broke with
this... also, once changed, what happens if you want to edit the borrower,
will koha accept the double email address or it will reject it and you will
need to use your script again to re-update the email?

Obviously, jumping over Koha interface and access DB directly have its
risks...

Better to open a bug request and see if developers buy it and find an
option.

Regards,

Alvaro

|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Envíe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier
celular y Nextel
en el Perú, México y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via SMS
y GPRS online
Visitenos en www.perusms.com
Post by Boettcher, Uwe
Hi Alvaro,
thanks a lot for your feedback.
Indeed, we already have tried to enter more than just one email address
into the address field. Unfortunately, as you already assumed, Koha comes
up with an error message, claiming the email address not to be correct. We
have tried several combinations of blank and semicolon, but none was
accepted.
Best
Uwe
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 24. August 2018 15:24
*Betreff:* Re: [Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses
Hi,
Haven't tested on Koha but in other applications, the workaround I use is
to enter both email addresses on the same field separated by a semi-colon
Koha might not allow the ; and space as valid characters on the email
address and the email process might also fail. You can also try with a
semicolon only (no space).
Regards,
Alvaro
|-----------------------------------------------------------
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Envíe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier celular y Nextel
en el Perú, México y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via SMS y GPRS online
Visitenos en www.perusms.com
Dear all,
we have the same problem, just with professors and personal assistants,
and would be happy to learn about a way to send notices to more than just
one e-mail address derived from a patrons' account.
Many thanks in advance, and kind regards
Uwe
--
(Mr.) Uwe Boettcher
WHU - Otto Beisheim School of Management
Vallendar, Germany
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. August 2018 12:10
Betreff: [Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses
Hi all,
we are using Koha in our school library and we have the following
"problem". We checkout books to all of our students starting from
preschool. Especially the younger once don't have a personal eMail
address. So we like to send notices (checkouts, checkins, overdues...)
to both parents. As far as I understand Koha it send the notices only to
one address. We could put in one of the parent's email, but we like to
inform both.
I've read that overdue_notices.pl has an repeatable --email parameter.
Where can I change it to send the notice to both parents?
Are there other ways to solve this problem or is it just not possible?
I'm thankful for any hints.
Regards,
Stephan
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Paul Hoffman
2018-08-24 15:52:28 UTC
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Have you tried a comma? That's the standard, not a semicolon. The
people who developed Outlook, etc. don't particularly seem to care about
standards (pet peeve #9,037).

Paul.
Post by Boettcher, Uwe
Hi Alvaro,
thanks a lot for your feedback.
Indeed, we already have tried to enter more than just one email address into the address field. Unfortunately, as you already assumed, Koha comes up with an error message, claiming the email address not to be correct. We have tried several combinations of blank and semicolon, but none was accepted.
Best
Uwe
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. August 2018 15:24
Betreff: Re: [Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses
Hi,
Koha might not allow the ; and space as valid characters on the email address and the email process might also fail. You can also try with a semicolon only (no space).
Regards,
Alvaro
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Envíe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier celular y Nextel
en el Perú, México y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via SMS y GPRS online
Visitenos en www.perusms.com<http://www.perusms.com>
Dear all,
we have the same problem, just with professors and personal assistants, and would be happy to learn about a way to send notices to more than just one e-mail address derived from a patrons' account.
Many thanks in advance, and kind regards
Uwe
--
(Mr.) Uwe Boettcher
WHU - Otto Beisheim School of Management
Vallendar, Germany
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. August 2018 12:10
Betreff: [Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses
Hi all,
we are using Koha in our school library and we have the following
"problem". We checkout books to all of our students starting from
preschool. Especially the younger once don't have a personal eMail
address. So we like to send notices (checkouts, checkins, overdues...)
to both parents. As far as I understand Koha it send the notices only to
one address. We could put in one of the parent's email, but we like to
inform both.
I've read that overdue_notices.pl<http://overdue_notices.pl> has an repeatable --email parameter.
Where can I change it to send the notice to both parents?
Are there other ways to solve this problem or is it just not possible?
I'm thankful for any hints.
Regards,
Stephan
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Hector Gonzalez
2018-08-24 19:22:36 UTC
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If the comma doesn´t do the trick, you might have a chat with your sysadmin, and make mail aliases in a local mail server, say "***@parents.yourdomain <mailto:***@parents.yourdomain>" would resend its messages to "***@theirmailserver, ***@theirothermailserver, ***@whenkidgetsanemail"

It´s not simple, but it may work for you. With postfix this could be done with alias tables, within a file or a database.

Cacho.
Post by Paul Hoffman
Have you tried a comma? That's the standard, not a semicolon. The
people who developed Outlook, etc. don't particularly seem to care about
standards (pet peeve #9,037).
Paul.
Post by Boettcher, Uwe
Hi Alvaro,
thanks a lot for your feedback.
Indeed, we already have tried to enter more than just one email address into the address field. Unfortunately, as you already assumed, Koha comes up with an error message, claiming the email address not to be correct. We have tried several combinations of blank and semicolon, but none was accepted.
Best
Uwe
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. August 2018 15:24
Betreff: Re: [Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses
Hi,
Koha might not allow the ; and space as valid characters on the email address and the email process might also fail. You can also try with a semicolon only (no space).
Regards,
Alvaro
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Envíe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier celular y Nextel
en el Perú, México y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via SMS y GPRS online
Visitenos en www.perusms.com<http://www.perusms.com>
Dear all,
we have the same problem, just with professors and personal assistants, and would be happy to learn about a way to send notices to more than just one e-mail address derived from a patrons' account.
Many thanks in advance, and kind regards
Uwe
--
(Mr.) Uwe Boettcher
WHU - Otto Beisheim School of Management
Vallendar, Germany
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. August 2018 12:10
Betreff: [Koha] Send all notices to all available eMail addresses
Hi all,
we are using Koha in our school library and we have the following
"problem". We checkout books to all of our students starting from
preschool. Especially the younger once don't have a personal eMail
address. So we like to send notices (checkouts, checkins, overdues...)
to both parents. As far as I understand Koha it send the notices only to
one address. We could put in one of the parent's email, but we like to
inform both.
I've read that overdue_notices.pl<http://overdue_notices.pl> has an repeatable --email parameter.
Where can I change it to send the notice to both parents?
Are there other ways to solve this problem or is it just not possible?
I'm thankful for any hints.
Regards,
Stephan
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